tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206677169397293052.post9172539210082530569..comments2023-09-10T08:35:25.739-07:00Comments on Street Rat Crazy Saloon: Part II of Consciousness... Scale Free NetworksDinkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10907199567928816652noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206677169397293052.post-78933158808823750792010-04-06T11:10:05.123-07:002010-04-06T11:10:05.123-07:00Geez, dink, THOSE BB SHOTS coming from someone who...Geez, dink, THOSE BB SHOTS coming from someone who was calling for a truce not so long ago, they look really strange..<br />I think that translations are interesting.<br />How else are we going to have any idea that we really understand something UNLESS we try translating it for someone else ??<br />Thanks, Thai for making a real effort.<br />I appreciate, as always.Debrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510189619803992336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206677169397293052.post-7651603599342643352010-04-06T10:04:14.068-07:002010-04-06T10:04:14.068-07:00Correction: since they're self-similar. Geebus...Correction: since <i>they're</i> self-similar. Geebus!Dinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10907199567928816652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206677169397293052.post-59415906157038804682010-04-06T09:59:55.804-07:002010-04-06T09:59:55.804-07:00"This theory is a TRANSLATION of Lacanian psy...<i>"This theory is a TRANSLATION of Lacanian psychoanalytic theory"</i><br /><br />Just so I understand this statement correctly,.... no, I'll stop here for both our sakes.<br /><br /><i>"Thai, thanks for helping me move my education in a new direction."</i><br /><br />Its mind-blowing fun! It leads to that "OMFG" feeling when you see things in a whole new light. Like when I read The Selfish Gene and all emotion suddenly seemed a lot less noble and a lot more calculated ;)<br /><br />This seemed a nice <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complexity_Science" rel="nofollow">summary</a> (a link from Thai's link)<br /><br />One intriguing issue with fractal systems is that if you can "break the code" on one level, you can assume it will apply to the next level too since their self-similar. "Grand unifying theory" and all that. <br /><br />I was going to go on about each hub being where system stability was reached which allows a new layer a complexity to iterate, but time is my enemy again. Negative feedback loops creating homeostasis or stable system boundaries.<br /><br />But one last thing: Thai, please feel free to toss Quicksilver; I don't want it to cause displeasure. Its extremely long and meanders mercilessly. The author clearly writes for his own amusement which happens to work for me, but I can understand is not everyone's cup of tea. Maybe I'll go through and find my favorite scenes and give you the approximate page numbers someday.<br /><br />Fingerpost is different in that the author is very focused and has a clear plan on how things are going to "hit" the reader. And they hit hard ;) i.e. D'oh! Don't spit in a pidgeon quill to clear before a tranfusion with an unknown bloodtype... oh well.Dinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10907199567928816652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206677169397293052.post-76420042500223761742010-04-06T08:21:56.542-07:002010-04-06T08:21:56.542-07:00As almost all of this is new I will take a bit of ...As almost all of this is new I will take a bit of time to read and digest the links and get back. Thai, thanks for helping me move my education in a new direction. JohnDr Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07453949255704523726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8206677169397293052.post-33515189177260595252010-04-06T00:28:50.659-07:002010-04-06T00:28:50.659-07:00FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND...
This theory is a TRANSLA...FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND...<br />This theory is a TRANSLATION of Lacanian psychoanalytic theory which identifies two major forces at work in the way language plays out in us.<br />Metaphor, which I mentioned in the last post, and metonymy.<br />Metonymy is the particular process at work in the world wide web.<br />One thing leads to another which leads to another, which leads to another.<br />What Freud discovered when he asked his patients to freely associate in the psychanalytic session.<br />One "word" leads to another, which leads to another, and at a particular point you notice..<br />THAT THERE IS STRUCTURE.<br />That it comes together around certain... HUBS as you call them which MIGHT be translated as "metaphors", or complexes.<br />The Freudian concept of complex COULD be interpreted as a form of "hub".<br />The problem with all this, Thai is that I think that... given the structure of our LANGUAGE, it seems EVIDENT to me that WHATEVER we discover is going to bear the imprint of the structure of our language.<br />And probably, at a certain point we are going to get to questions of belief.<br />YOU will believe that our language is subject to certain natural physical laws, and i will believe that the physical "laws" we SEE are.. reformulations of the WAY our language ALLOWS US to see. <br />Two very different viewpoints, or beliefs, if you like.Debrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510189619803992336noreply@blogger.com